Thoughts on the con
Hello all,
It's Saturday and I thought I would post some thoughts on the con. As a cautionary note, this is not all sunshine and happiness. I know that there is a session tomorrow to discuss such things. I won't be there. STA (the local mass transit) is awful on Sunday. Please don't take anything I am going to say as being nasty. I waited a few hours to get more objective on things. I was truly pissed when I left the con.
The good:
- Ran into two friends from the PSST (Puget Sound Star Trekkers) days that I hadn't seen in over thirty years.
- L. E. Modesitt did a really nice GOH chat. I was surprised at the low turn out. Gave him an attaboy afterwards.
- The opening ceremony was entertaining. Even with the snafus. I was sitting with Bill Warren over by the sound guy and could see and hear the grief that was happening. Great save by the staff.
- It seemed that the Con Com kept things in perspective. No blind panic, personable.
- I saw instances where the volunteers were being taken care of very well. Liquids, care for rest, etc.
- The glossy program book was very well done.
The bad:
- Weather. At a Catholic university you should have gotten some help from above. Not really.
- The maps could have been better. It took me hours to figure out where three buildings were. Never really did figure out the layout of College Hall.
- The housing situation. Bill was staying at the eastern one. Went over there with him to drop off some his things. Looks like an elementary school that has been certified as inappropriate for human habitation. No A/C on *really* hot days. I think felons get better quarters in prison. You might want to strengthen the housing descriptions.
- The con is too spread out. Don't see any fix at Gonzaga for that.
- Can't count the number of times I heard the phrase; It's for the charity. A bite here, a bite there. The question in my my mind is, are you running a con or a fund raiser?
The ugly:
- The pocket program book didn't match reality. You might consider doing it a day at a time. By this I mean an update every morning rather than a monolithic book at the start. You could also try the town crier approach (yelling changes). There were also items that appeared on the door charts but not on the program guide. See the next item.
- The item that bothered me the most. I wandered over to Cataldo at 7ish on Saturday to see what was happening. I see them setting up a bunch of single malt scotch. I asked the guy wearing the kilt if it is OK if fans drink liquor that they had with them. Was asked if I had an invitation. No. Told to wait until 9ish when the Marmots set up. It's now 7:30, hmm. So I go sit in the back of the room and was really surprised to see one person who I presume had an invite drinking a beer. I also noticed that no one was checking ids at the door. A complete difference from The Friday night Marmot when I got carded coming back from the bathroom. C'mon, I'm 50 years old. Then I notice another of the invited nipping from a hip flask. Oddly enough, I was not amused. I understand special events for the pros and for the volunteers. I do not understand why the general membership was segregated into the haves and the have nots. You have already arranged for the banquet license for the single malt thing. By 8, I'm late for the door. This item left me feeling that I had just taken a mercifully short cruise in steerage class on the Titanic.
Should you wish to contact me on this, please use email.
Jack
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Tim Martin
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Sorry about the Saturday evening thing... I had too much going on and was not thinking correctly. My correct answer should have been "yes, come on in, sit down and relax". We are still working out the details on MMSC, and have listened and will be making some changes based on the Fan inputs. So, yes, I screwed up when I said no.
Tim 'somecallmeTim' Martin
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INFilk chief bottle washer and newsletter guy
masterzap
Great con this year in my opinion, i think it was a bigger turn out then last year wasnt it?
Great job with the volunteers and security (props to the tri-city toy soldiers) they did a great job of keeping everything running as smoothly as possible, and providing us with drinks and food!
Next year would be cool to possibly move to a larger location, maybe the arena (I know, to expensive) or someplace not so spread out. I think we could get more vendor booths to come out and set up.
All in all, a great job for just being the 2nd year of the Con!!
Thanks to all who helped put it on, and will defnatly see you all next year.
mocastles
Great con. Can't wait for next year!
Monique
koromir
Compared to last year, it didn't seem so spread out. I liked how the events were in college, cataldo and jepson. I liked the location a lot better than where the dance was last year. Great job in getting College Hall.
Could the board game room possibly have games like jenga and checkers next year?
Sean
Gamer
Could the board game room possibly have games like jenga and checkers next year?
Will do.
Congrats on a successful year. I look forward to hearing the numbers of attendees.
I agree that the number one thing I would change is the location. As a former Gonzaga student and employee I love the place, but I don't think it works great for this convention. Being spread out into individual rooms makes exploring the con quite a bit more difficult. The gamers were off in one building and the guests were over there and videos were being shown somewhere.
It may just be my nostalgic memories, but I'd suggest the old Game Fair location, SFCC. It had a big open area for lounging and three big side rooms with a few smaller rooms for panels and talks. It's been probably 15 years since I've seen it, so who knows, maybe they changed it and it won't work any more but it was a great location for a convention of SpoCon's size.
Okay, checking out their webpage it hasn't changed a bit!
Taking the virtual tour brought back some pretty fond geeky memories. If you haven't already, I'd suggest you look into renting the SUB next year.
EDIT: I may be interested in helping out next year, send me a message if you want someone to help with programming (the bits and bytes type, not schedules).
Obiwanjacoby
I was a volunteer GM this year.
- I want to personally thank RPG director Big C for his quick thinking. Jepson 019 was a brilliant last-minute changeup and fit our theme perfectly. You rock.
- The volunteer staff were incredibly warm and helpful, especially with multiple security issues. MUCH improved from last year IMO.
- [edit] This last question has been answered offline 8/3/09. Thanks!
Scott Spicer
Sayer of Doom
Gremdel....went to all of the old gamefiare's. SFCC has only about 40% of the space available compared to mthe old days. Most have been turned into offices and student service aresa. Could only hold a couple hundred attendees for an event like ours.
Sean
Gamer
Gremdel....went to all of the old gamefiare's. SFCC has only about 40% of the space available compared to mthe old days. Most have been turned into offices and student service aresa. Could only hold a couple hundred attendees for an event like ours.
That's too bad. Looking at the maps and virtual tour it looked the same as I remember but my memory aint so great.
wolfgang613
Pros:
1. The best thing about SpoCon was and is the people. I see that ConCom worked hard to make this a great Con.
2. Uncle's did a great job over at Jepson and all the other vendors were terrific.
3. The Mad Marmot Booth was great and had a lot of cool stuff.
4. Registration went smoothly and security had things taken care of.
5. The lan room was good as well as the gaming areas. I did not get to any panels this years so I don't know how they went.
6. I like the venue even if I had to walk a bit. There is plenty of parking and the grounds are very neat and clean.
7. The weather was hot which what I expect to have in Spokane during August.
Cons:
1. I bought a coup of the Mad Marmot Mystery Boxes and was able to redeem one at the art show without any trouble, however when I approached Steve Long he was a bit put-out by it and was not interested in playing along. I suggest getting permission from the guest before putting them in an awkward situation. Because of this, I did not buy any more Mad Marmot Mystery Boxes. I do not blame Steve Long for this situation.
2. We need an information booth or two. Some place designated to answer questions about the Con.
3. We needed a little more directional signage on campus.
4. More detailed maps of where the events are happening. Showing the placement of the rooms in the buildings.
5. I was unhappy to see pieces of paper censoring the artwork in the art show. If it is pornographic, than do not allow it in the show, but do not censor art!
6. We need to have a better relationship with the on site food vendor. It seemed very adversarial and that is a no win for everyone.
startroop
There were many things that were good. The guests were smart, nice and willing to chat. The gaming space was big enough and well layed out. Lots of good programming options. Registration was smooth. Ops really went all out when my friend lost his check book to help him find it.
There were a few things that could be improved on. I tried to go to the MMSC both Friday and Saturday. It was not conducive to conversation. I could barely hear John Dalmas when he spoke inches from my ear. Getting around in the space to actually sit down and talk to someone was difficult. Perhaps more space could be alotted so that there could be some chat space around where you could also have a drink with a freind. The on campus housing is not working for me. This is the second time I have tried it and both times there was an issue with bedding (i.e. not enough and no easy way to resolve it). Individual Gonzaga staff we met with were very polite and as helpful as they could be, there just didn't seem to be any organization. We were in Welch and it was beastly hot. I literally couldn't sleep the first night and went out and slept in the car. I bought a fan the next night and it was bearable. Getting breakfast for before the early panel was tough. THere were some reasonable restaurants for lunch and dinner but the best breakfast option was Starbucks. Don't know an easy fix for that.
All in all, a very good effort and we bought our passes for next year.
Nick
Thank you all for the feedback.
I had to suffer through the heat in the rooms also, and had no fun, so I completely understand. (AND they left the beds bunked and at different heights so we could not set them up next to each other on the ground, ugh).
As an official ConCom member I will keep my personal comments about some of the campus stuff and the Cataldo food vendor to myself.
*Toast* To next year!
David Morris
Gremdel thanks for volunteering! I sent you a PM regarding that...
Everyone who is taking time to make comments here: THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!
I take your criticism with the attitude of you helping us be better for next year. Some of the problems mentioned here I knew about and some not and I appreciate all that were mentioned!
Overall I hear people being very understanding with our mistakes and with the facilities, but I don't want people to suffer with the same housing problems. It is unexcusable that some of the SAME problems with housing from last year, occurred this year again.
As the Con Chair for 2010 I want to hear anything that we need to correct. I will do my best to keep these things in mind and make the corrections that are necessary.
Dave Morris
PS keep the comments coming! Thank you to those who share the kudos.
Tim Martin
The Quartermaster
While helping with the last loads of items that Guest Relations had, and helping with cleaning up the guest rooms we found out from the cleaning staff how to ensure that the apartments and dorms have all the sheets / blankets / pillows / towels / etc that we need. So that will no longer be an issue.
As for the heat... they suggested holding the Con in February... lol.
onward we go -- we can only make SpoCon better and grow with the input we're getting. Thank you.
Tim 'somecallmeTim' Martin
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Spokane in 2015 Worldcon bid commitee
INFilk chief bottle washer and newsletter guy
koromir
My Review
Before I start on this let me remind you that I spent most of my time in the anime rooms and making sure they ran smoothly. I did try to get out from time to time to walk around to various things and places. From what I saw, these are my thoughts:
Coming on Friday, I felt things were slightly disorganized. People were wandering around not sure where things were or were lost. When I got my goodie bag, I noticed that there wasn't much of a map at all. Also, I noticed that some bags had figurines while others like mine, didn't. I am not sure if that was a first come first serve basis. My badge number was 395. I misplaced my badge from last year so I cannot prove that claim. I feel like a goody bag ought to contain everything that the next person gets, regardless when they got there to register.
Unlike some people, I really like the fact that we had college hall to our disposal. I was as hot as the next person and it was a real damper that they had classes going in one of the rooms all weekend. I really liked the theatre that was used for the masquerade and opening ceremonies. It was open and there were plenty of seating. It served well for the panels, masquerade, concerts and rave. The theatre being used for the rave was really excellent. The location last year was down in the basement of the LAN room. It was relatively small and wasn't easily accessible. I liked how the rave had more than two people there. The Dealer's room was a lot more organized this year though. Rather than having different vendors in different rooms, they were all put in Cataldo in that big room.
Even though the mad marmot mystery boxes were a neat idea, it wasn't very well advertised. I totally forgot about it until the end at the closing ceremonies. I wish that there were more signs about it or even a message about it in the pocket guide and the big booklet that everyone had. What I also find interesting were those mad marmot parties. I saw pictures from Chris's facebook concerning it and also discussion here. Was it just a private party where only 'select persons' got in or could any attendee come? If the latter was the case, then why not advertise that better as well? The art show was pretty cool, however, why censor some of the art? There were other pieces there that had decapitated barbie heads (I think that's what it was) but they censored nudity on a painting? The LAN room looked pretty awesome. Who wouldn't like to watch Star Trek and Family guy while they played games? Comments about the anime rooms and to myself. Megan and I ought to be a little more organized next year. The masquerade was well done too.
I regret not going to any of the panels except my own...especially that theory one from Sunday.
Hospitality and the security guys were awesome. The food was cheap and the guys really took care of the volunteers and attendees. I remember them always checking in on occasion asking if everyone was alright in the anime rooms and seeing if anyone needed water. Whenever doors were locked or anything, these guys were on top of it. Not only did they do their job well, they were also very fun to hang and talk with during the down times. I would love to see these guys again next year. I also liked how they got in the spirit with dying their hair the con colors.
In short, here are things to improve on. Better maps, better advertising of events and their changes, and perhaps more explanations? I only really know anime and do not know much else cept characters' names in Star Trek and Star Wars (Spock, R2D2) I never knew what filk or LARP or some of this other stuff was until just recently. Perhaps reiterate on those topics that some do not know about? A FAQ page in the booklet perhaps?
I am sorry I couldn't give a better review. I will try to wander around more next year.
spocant
Why do you even need to have alcohol? I don't think it was necessary. If you feel it is necessary then it should be a private party only.
spocant
I have never been to GU before and I got hella lost. I asked some people where certain panels where and they were just as lost as me. There really should have been better signage pointing people in the right direction and updated schedule adjustments. I understand that you have lots (some might say to much) planned but does it really need to be so spread out? Finally, I was telling my buddy about it and he wanted to go with me on Saturday but you don't sell single days passes. What's up with that? Sorry, I enjoyed getting to meet some people and see some panels, but I really left frustrated.
.f.r.e.a.k.
- The pocket program book didn't match reality. You might consider doing it a day at a time. By this I mean an update every morning rather than a monolithic book at the start. You could also try the town crier approach (yelling changes). There were also items that appeared on the door charts but not on the program guide.
I really like this idea, but at the same time it is a waste of paper and could also lead to more mix ups for everyone-not just guests but staff as well. Just my thoughts on it.
One of the things that bugged me most was the Spokane Flirts. I understand that they do a lot of good and charitable things but I felt their presence at the Con (ie their costumes) was degrading for both women and men. I felt that they were brought in as a selling point for people's libidos and I feel that that only makes the Con's ideals look cheap. besides that I only saw them on Friday at opening ceremonies. I heard mention they were at the Masquerade but that was all. If you were going to try and use them to sell the Con anyway I feel that they should have been more involved. Maybe had a 'signing' or something, play up their costumes. Anything else but that horrific dance at opening. It disgusted my inner raging feminist to the core.
Other than that I really enjoyed the Con and can't wait to be helping out more next year!
I'm going on a fantastic, you coming with?
KelRok
I'm probably going to sound like a total witch here. I'm sorry, but I feel like SpoCon was almost a waste of my money this year. I really enjoyed last year and just wrote off any problems as first year hiccups. There was no excuse for some things this year though.
This year the programming I wanted to go to was divided between two buildings, Jepson and the administration building. The distance between them wasn't terribly far, but it was difficult to constantly have to go between them. Also, the admin building was always so hot. I much preferred last year when most of the panels I wanted were in Jepson and it was always so nice and cool in there. The only thing I really liked being in there was the rave. That was something that was just tons above last year. Great job!
The guests this year didn't seem nearly as accessible as last year's. They were brusque and stand-offish and didn't seem to be having any fun at all. Tim Zahn and the other guests last year were very nice and seemed very happy to be at the convention with their fans. Not so this year. Actually the quality of guest this year overall seemed to be down from last year's.
The only one I'd ever heard of before the convention was Modesitt.
I wasn't a big fan of this year's marmot club either. It was just dead when I went in late on Friday, and the lady carding at the door didn't remember me but just asked me if I'd been in before and waved me on by when I went back in without carding me. She didn't have a stamp or a bracelet or anything to show that she had previously carded me. I don't see how the party wasn't shut down by authorities with almost no security like that! Can't remember if the security was better last year or not, but it really needs to be improved next year. More hosts each night would be wonderful too. I loved the mad marmot drink at RadCon this year. It'd be great to see that served at the mad marmot CLUB.
I think my final point is that I don't appreciate that the artwork was censored with sticky notes. I don't CARE if the piece isn't an original, it's degrading and disrespectful to the artists to just stick stuff all over their work! I understand if you want to keep the convention a family event, but this is art. The kids are going to see more nudity going to most museums than they would at this exhibit. And if you want to censor the art, do it in a way that's not so noticeable. Tell the artists not to send "racy" work if you don't want it at your show. But never ever ever should you just go sticking things to the art once it's there. Sorry, but that to me is so unforgivable.
Please don't get me wrong the things that were good about this year's SpoCon were really good. The panels I got to (when I could muster up the energy to brave an un-air conditioned building) I really enjoyed. But there were some major problems this year too. I left feeling disappointed with the convention this year. Sorry guys.
Wish I had more positive things to say for this year. Hopefully some things change for next time.
John Ammon
Web Team Lead
I'm probably going to sound like a total witch here. I'm sorry, but I feel like SpoCon was almost a waste of my money this year. I really enjoyed last year and just wrote off any problems as first year hiccups. There was no excuse for some things this year though.
Sorry you feel that way. Try to keep in mind also that this was only our second year... I think perhaps we set the bar too high on the first year.
This year the programming I wanted to go to was divided between two buildings, Jepson and the administration building. The distance between them wasn't terribly far, but it was difficult to constantly have to go between them. Also, the admin building was always so hot. I much preferred last year when most of the panels I wanted were in Jepson and it was always so nice and cool in there. The only thing I really liked being in there was the rave. That was something that was just tons above last year. Great job!
We would have honestly loved to use Jepson as our main building again, but at this point we were lucky to be able to use it at all, turns out Gonzaga and the dean of that building is very touchy about the use of it. Sorry.
The guests this year didn't seem nearly as accessible as last year's. They were brusque and stand-offish and didn't seem to be having any fun at all. Tim Zahn and the other guests last year were very nice and seemed very happy to be at the convention with their fans. Not so this year. Actually the quality of guest this year overall seemed to be down from last year's.
The only one I'd ever heard of before the convention was Modesitt.
I'll disagree with this one to a point, they may have been more inaccessible this year due to the fact that we had a few issues with the facility that required schuffling things around, but I personally talked to a few of the guests (when I had time) and Steve Long and John Picacio were both very awesome and gracious. I wouldn't say at all that the quality of guests was down, we had multiple award winners this year that are quite popular. With guests you run the risk of some people not being as recognized, it's unavoidable, I think we may be looking at some media guests in the future, we shall see.
I wasn't a big fan of this year's marmot club either. It was just dead when I went in late on Friday, and the lady carding at the door didn't remember me but just asked me if I'd been in before and waved me on by when I went back in without carding me. She didn't have a stamp or a bracelet or anything to show that she had previously carded me. I don't see how the party wasn't shut down by authorities with almost no security like that! Can't remember if the security was better last year or not, but it really needs to be improved next year. More hosts each night would be wonderful too. I loved the mad marmot drink at RadCon this year. It'd be great to see that served at the mad marmot CLUB.
I'm not a drinker, so I can only really say that the Marmot Club really got into full swing on Saturday, and as for more hosts... well, are you volunteering?
We don't manufacture them in a factory, we have as many hosts as are interested, we'll try and spread the word out more next year though.
I think my final point is that I don't appreciate that the artwork was censored with sticky notes. I don't CARE if the piece isn't an original, it's degrading and disrespectful to the artists to just stick stuff all over their work! I understand if you want to keep the convention a family event, but this is art. The kids are going to see more nudity going to most museums than they would at this exhibit. And if you want to censor the art, do it in a way that's not so noticeable. Tell the artists not to send "racy" work if you don't want it at your show. But never ever ever should you just go sticking things to the art once it's there. Sorry, but that to me is so unforgivable.
I agree with you 100%
Please don't get me wrong the things that were good about this year's SpoCon were really good. The panels I got to (when I could muster up the energy to brave an un-air conditioned building) I really enjoyed. But there were some major problems this year too. I left feeling disappointed with the convention this year. Sorry guys.
Wish I had more positive things to say for this year. Hopefully some things change for next time.
And I hope to see you next year so that you can be amazed at all the awesome changes we implement based on your feedback!
Tim Martin
The Quartermaster
Thank you for all of your comment. I pulled thing together here so I can address then as we are always looking for feedback on making SpoCon better.
Why do you even need to have alcohol? I don't think it was necessary. If you feel it is necessary then it should be a private party only.
The hundreds of surveys we have gotten from promotions at a number of other conventions have shown that along with the dealers room and art show, room parties round out the top three "required" items. One primary reason that we have Mad Marmot Social Club is there is one location on Campus that alcohol can be served. We can't have traditional room parties as with other Cons at a Hotel. So, we got creative with what we had to work with. We have been discussing having a venue for an alcohol free gathering spot as well. This requires personnel to organize it, plan it, and staff it. Would you be willing to step up and help make it happen?
I have never been to GU before and I got hella lost. I asked some people where certain panels where and they were just as lost as me. There really should have been better signage pointing people in the right direction and updated schedule adjustments.
Last year, our signage... well, sucked. We added a number of blue sign posts to help Fans out, posted maps in the buildings. We are somewhat limited on now much signage we can put up, at least in size, and need to be considerate for the facilities. We did have a campus map on the pocket guide with the buildings we were in highlighted. Do you think a similar map in the larger program guide would be good (or better) as well? Perhaps large maps printed up like we have for the programming grids on the walls?
I understand that you have lots (some might say to much) planned but does it really need to be so spread out?
This is a very important comment... too much programming. For the spread out part we are working with the facilities that we have to work with. I'm not sure how good College Hall is for regular programming -- I was offered a number of statements about the desks. What do you think about them? (they are also a PITA to move back.. whew). Since we are not in one big building, we do need to have some in one building, some in another. We did a lot of moving around to try to keep things in balance. Do you have any suggestions as to what you feel would work better?
Finally, I was telling my buddy about it and he wanted to go with me on Saturday but you don't sell single days passes. What's up with that? Sorry, I enjoyed getting to meet some people and see some panels, but I really left frustrated.
If I had the room, I could write a book about day passes pro's and con's (no pun intended... okay, maybe only slightly). First off, they are a logistical and security hassle. If you have not been behind the scenes, this is not the easiest thing to understand. I for one did not until I started running events that got larger and larger and then got involved with SpoCon. Thousands of hours of man-hours are put into planning and running SpoCon and we present what we think is a package deal from start to finish. Somewhat like a movie -- if you get you ticket and watch the movie regardless if you are early, late, or leave halfway through, the movie ticket price is the same. If you do the math, the price per hour is much, much less for Spocon -- about 75 cents vs. $4.00 for a movie. No, we do not have the production quality of a Hollywood, and not even a Bollywood, movie, but we try.
I am sorry you left feeling frustrated. As the administrative vice-chair for 2010, I would love to hear your ideas on how we can make things better. We do what we do for two reasons: To raise money for books for schools, and to provide an event to celebrate and honor fandom. Without you, the fans, we really don't have much of a purpose and if we're doing it wrong, let us know some ideas on fixing int. We are not perfect, and always are on the look out for new ideas and ways to improve this thing called SpoCon. With your help, it can only get better.
Thank you again for all of your comments.
Tim 'somecallmeTim' Martin
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Spokane in 2015 Worldcon bid commitee
INFilk chief bottle washer and newsletter guy
stargypsyd
I had never been to an opening ceremonies before & was disappointed in it. But in Nick's defense he had another group that was suppose to be in this event that canceled at the last minute.
Voya
I think it needs to be stated that said "group" attempted to make contact several months prior regarding the opening ceremony. After being told that the ceremony was "covered" and their idea for the skit rejected, said group waited for a proposed skit to be composed. 3 days before the event, they were given the idea for the ceremony. After discussion and review, they felt it wasn't in their best interest and were uncomfortable with the subject matter.
With a prior knowledge of the skit and more than 3 days notice, perhaps something could have been worked out.
Tim Martin
The Quartermaster
I think it needs to be stated that said "group" attempted to make contact several months prior regarding the opening ceremony. After being told that the ceremony was "covered" and their idea for the skit rejected, said group waited for a proposed skit to be composed. 3 days before the event, they were given the idea for the ceremony. After discussion and review, they felt it wasn't in their best interest and were uncomfortable with the subject matter.
With a prior knowledge of the skit and more than 3 days notice, perhaps something could have been worked out.
We completely agree with the descision made and look forward to working on improved communication and scheduling starting.... "now". We have some ideas for next year, and as they are fleshed out, will start getting more people involved so we don't run into the "3 day" thing again.
What will help in the long run is ideas on how to make it better. The more ideas coming in, the better it will be. We know that we do not have a corner on creativity. We've owned up to screwing up, publicly in several places and we are in the process of getting those wounds to heal (slowly I might add). We also don't want a 2 hour long "ceremony" and it's not really a ceremony and I think we're going to rename it to the Opening Celebration.
What do you all think of that?
Tim 'somecallmeTim' Martin
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Spokane in 2015 Worldcon bid commitee
INFilk chief bottle washer and newsletter guy
John Ammon
Web Team Lead
Or perhaps "Opening Welcome"... the wife and I were discussing it a bit last night.
Big C Chris Snell
We did have a Social Gathering (non-alcoholic) with desserts and gaming!
Thank you Palouse Board Gamers! I hope this went well into the night.
You are most welcome addition this year and I look forward to seeing you next!
'Big C' Chris Snell
Mominator
Posting my onions and roses now...
Good Stuff:
*As a pro, I truly feel that we were treated quite well, and made to feel very welcome.
*The Party Room was a lot of fun
*The Dealers Room was very well laid out, and blessedly cool!
Stuff that needs improvement:
*Lack of security carding at the Party Room: It was very disconcerting to be waved into the party, whether you showed ID or not. The WSLCB is very insistent that if alcohol is served at any sort of event of this kind, you must card, and everyone must have their ID on their person, regardless if they look like they are 17 or 70. I don't want the con to lose the ability to hold these type of events.
*Food service: Hospitality was minimal. They worked very hard, I will give them that! Better variety of foodage would be good: sammiches, or frozen burrito/Hot Pocket type things work well. In the distant past, I ran hospitality at Incon sometimes, and I had everyone on the ComCon bake or bring at least a couple dozen cookies to sell. This might be an option too.
*Communication on panels/schedules/location: minimal, and I never did understand the map on the pocket program. Again, from past experience, a "Daily 'Zine" that shows schedule changes and other stuff that needs to be communicated works very well. We did it at Westercon, they do it at most big cons as well... and YES, Timmeh, I am willing to help on that part!
*Panel room size: Both Tom and I didn't get to see panels we really wanted to, because the rooms were already full. Larger rooms are needed, especially for the unique panels/large draw panels.
The accomodations are... Spartan. I know that heat happens, but honestly, the dorms were almost the same rate as the hotel, without all the conveniences like air conditioning, decent beds, elevators... not worth the savings. Next year, we are definitely doing a hotel room.
My $.02, adjusted for inflation. Am I coming back next year? Absolutely! It is heartening to see such a caring base of people who saw the need for a con in Spokane, and who have risen to the challenge. Keep going, folks!
-Momi
John Ammon
Web Team Lead
Thanks for the comments Mominator! Much appreciated!
For the record a lot of us ConCom got put into the same un-air-conditioned apartments, and I agree that it was horrific and truly unfortunate (sleeping in your own sweat is never fun), hopefully next year we'll have a better solution, and I know we're already on the lookout!
Stan
Web Team Lead
Again, from past experience, a "Daily 'Zine" that shows schedule changes and other stuff that needs to be communicated works very well
I love that idea.
Tim Martin
The Quartermaster
We also will be modifying the Mad Marmot Market (M-cubed) into a help desk, resource center, lost and found, first aid spot. That is what it worked into anyway
If not a daily 'zine, the at least a daily update where schedules are posted..
Tim 'somecallmeTim' Martin
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TanisDragon
First I would like to say thanks for having us (Dragondyne Publishing) out. Except for a couple hickups we had a great time. The two hickups we ran into where.
1) The gaming room we where assigned for our game demos wasn't setup when we arrived on friday. It was just a jumble of tables on one side of the room and chairs in a heap in the other. With a little elbow grease we got this one solved.
2) Finding the Mad Marmot Social. This was a big one. I spent several hours on Friday trying to find out where it was and where I was supposed to be for the meeting. After talking to everyone I could find that was either in a yellow shirt or on security. I ended up at hospitality for about a half hour, since in the program book the Social and Hospitality where listed in the same room. When no one showed up for the meeting I started looking for people again and as luck would have it stumbled into some friends from Radcon, that just happened to have the Spocon Chairs phone number. After a phone call I finally found out where the social was taking place.
Like I said other than these two hickups we had a great time and our tasty beverage (Manzala Sunrise, also known as the orange stuff) was a hit.
Dustin Gross
aka Tanis Dragon
Dragondyne Publishing